Tuesday, 7 September 2010

Egyptian politics: immoral bastards play the immorality card against the opposition

Anti-Baradei activists on the Facebook group "Those who have honour are dead: the secrets of the Baradei family" posted this photo of pro-democracy activist, former IAEA director and Nobel Prize Laureate Dr. Mohammed El-Baradei's daughter Leila El-Baradei in a swimsuit. The aim: to discredit the Baradei family as "not Muslim enough" and "not in conformity with culture and tradition" to politically-oppose the regime. As if Leila is the first or only lady in Egypt to don a swimsuit.

Different rumours - true or not - accompanied this and
other photos. Some photos claimed, rightly or not, that Leila El-Baradei drinks alcohol, socialises in places with wine and spirits, wears bikinis and is married to a British, Christian man. Mohammed El-Baradei accused the regime and its security apparatus of promulgating these rumours, distributing these photos and dishonouring his daughter
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I have never been a supporter of El-Baradei, and I despise him and his reform plans - especially the obscure and pretentious "7-Point Manifesto". But I cannot hide my disgust at the filth and lowness of this new anti-Baradei campaign.

Some of the group's claims against Leila were proven false by witness accounts. One such claim was her marriage to a Christian Briton in contradiction with Muslim law which prohibits a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim man. Photos of Leila's wedding in the Egyptian Embassy in Vienna with its Viennese artwork were used to substantiate this seemingly-false claim. However, an Egyptian diplomat speaking on condition of anonymity confirmed that Leila El-Baradei's marriage was held in accordance to Islamic law and witnessed by her father, then-IAEA director, and the Egyptian Ambassador in Vienna in 2006 and is documented in the Egyptian diplomatic and civil records.

Her photos any no more revealing nor are they any less 'modest' than what one encounters at most Egyptian beach resorts or what most upper-middle and upper class Egyptians wear on the beach in Sharm El-Sheikh, Hurgada, Ein Sokhna or Marina on the North Coast! And whether or not Leila 'consumes alcohol' should most certainly not be part of public debate. Not to mention that, as the daughter of a diplomat and a former IAEA Director and an expatriate who spent most of her life between Vienna and other European capitals, it's only understandable that Leila socialises in places where alcohol is served and consumed - assuming she doesn't herself consume it.

After all, providing guests with alcoholic beverages is part of the Egyptian diplomatic protocol despite the fact that Egyptian culture frowns upon the consumption or mere presence of alcohol!

اللي اختشوا ماتوا أسرار عائلة البرادعي

But whether or not Leila is a respectful lady is not my issue here and should not be part of public debate... The issue was certainly not meant to be one of morality - but one of electoral politics.

Who are they fooling?

A handful of filthy anti-Baradei activists saw an opportunity in making these photos public and promulgate these rumours to assure low support for Baradei amongst Egypt's conservative lower classes and rural constituency - the ones that are kept in the dark from the corruption of the ruling business oligarchy and the traditions and norms of Egypt's upper-middle and upper classes, including those in diplomatic positions or official posts.

Some tweeters reported earlier that the photos might be fake... I have never met Leila in person and have no way of confirming or denying the validity of these photos. But the fact remains: someone out there played the morality card to discredit El-Baradei in a country where things like this will most certainly matter.

But, I wonder, if these photos are proven to be false: how much publicity will given to the negation of the validity of these photos? And what would the reaction have been had these photos been of one of the respectful ladies from the "Holy family" or from an influential business or political family? Will this disgusting attack against the Baradeis be given the same reaction Sadat gave Sheikh Kishk when he called the then-First Lady Jihan Sadat a prostitute?

What shocks me even more - as usual - were comments posted by the members of the aforementioned Facebook Group. The comments can be read under the photo here. But below are some of the more striking one:

Ahmad Faid (06/09/2010 @ 02:32):
بس بصراحه بعيدا عن كل ذلك هيه بالمايوه وزه ... يعني ممكن اروح انتخبه عشان بنته
يا جدعان حرام عليكم , ده لو اخر واحد م هرشحه اللي يسيب بنته تتجوز مسيحي و خمر و زنا
ده مسخره امال هيعمل فينا ايه؟

53 comments:

  1. Perfect life style

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  2. As an Iranian I deeply wish that Egyptian revolution does not get hijacked by Islamist as it was in Iran 30 years ago. Egypt today is drawing the picture of middle east for tomorrow. A democratic secular Egypt bring future to the region and an Islamic government takes the region back for many decades.

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  3. People of IRAN are with you.We are GREEN and we send our wishes to all people of Egypt.

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  4. why the hamas forces dont help the people op egypt against the army??

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  5. "As an Iranian I deeply wish that Egyptian revolution does not get hijacked by Islamist as it was in Iran 30 years ago. Egypt today is drawing the picture of middle east for tomorrow. A democratic secular Egypt bring future to the region and an Islamic government takes the region back for many decades."

    I am Iranian and I agree with you.

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  6. Dear Egyptian fellow!
    Be aware of Islamists and Islamic leaders. They are typically devious, sneaky and dishonest and professional liers and play dirtiest tricks possible in the name of Islam but for their own purposes.

    30 years life under an Islamic regime's control (Iran)has proved that an Islamic regime is a serious threat to humanity, freedom and democracy.

    Be extremely aware and good luck with your movement!

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  7. We are Green,
    We are Iranian,
    Down whit Mobarak's Dictatorship
    الموت لمُبارک
    حفظ الله علیکم

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  8. Be careful, I am an Iranian and I know how dangerous an Islamic government could be. Do not be fooled, use Iranian's experience. DO NOT LET ISLAMIST to take advantage of the situation.

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  9. "As an Iranian I deeply wish that Egyptian revolution does not get hijacked by Islamist as it was in Iran 30 years ago. Egypt today is drawing the picture of middle east for tomorrow. A democratic secular Egypt bring future to the region and an Islamic government takes the region back for many decades."

    I am Iranian and I agree with you.

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  10. I am an iranian woman, and I wish Egypt freedom and a Secular Democratic Government. Watch out and do not trust a certain idea (Islamic or whatever, ...) steal your fights for democracy.

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  11. stay until you win,dont leave streets ,after that dont let islamist take your government

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  13. Do NOT trust Islamist groups,what a pity if gr8 civilizations such as egypt and Iran both make wrong
    best wishes for you all brave egyptians
    forever Freeeeeeeeeeeee

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  14. As an Iranian who has experienced an Islamic regime, I strongly recommend not to trust Islamic or any other idealogic politician. An ideal Islamic government will never be brought to you by Islamic activists. At least do not let them enter political scene before the crisis is over and the country is back to a stable state.
    We Iranians are proud of you, brothers and sisters! Take care.

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  15. Iran is Egypt!
    Viva Egyp, Viva Iran
    Khamene'i and Mubarak Go to hell We people don't want you any more!
    برو یعنی ارحل!یحیا مصر و ایران اقدم حضارات فی العالم

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  16. As an Iranian, I strongly recommend you to be carful about Islamic revolution in Egypt. If they achieve power they are not going anywher. Just look at Iran and take a lesson from our situation. Dont let it be another Tehran.

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  17. all Arab countries eyes look at your hands.freedom is so close.grab it .
    your Iranian brothers support your fantastic revolution.

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  18. Egiptians must be care full and dont accept reliious opositions to lead this revelution. Attention! thay are very clever. thay make himself as democrate and as well as go on power, show their real faces.
    Good luck

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  19. To the free people of Egypt, make sure you aim for a secular type of government and a separation of state and religion to be stated in your constitution. In Iran we have learned the hard way that religion and freedom of expression do not mix and are not compatible. We also had our revolution hijacked by religions opportunist in the name of God and Islam. Look at us now. Religious politics leads to dictatorship, suppression and lack of human rights, period.

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  20. We are iranian ,we are green
    i feel what you see in street
    just don't give up
    we pray for you
    Green iranian will win soon like you will do

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  21. As an Iranian, I tell you that all of the anonymous comments above is from almost 2 or 3 people that are telling you the big lie, like what they are doing here.
    the green opposition in Iran is supported by USA and by Israel and they are big lies, their leader Mousavi last year told the biggest lie of our history and claimed that the election was fraud but he didn't present only 1 good evidence of that claim and became the biggest liar of our country.
    Don't trust even one of their word and I admit again that the green opposition is supported and financed by USA and Israel.
    to prove my word, review the news about the financial aid from USA congress for "REGIME CHANGE" in Iran.
    majority of IRANIANS support our Islamic government and hate the Green Opposition.

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  22. we Iranians support you, we Iranians hope that you choose your favorable government, even an Islamic government.
    Islamic government is supported by the majority of Iranians and the saved the government and country by their "Shahids".
    If you choose an Islamic government, we are with you, and even If you choose other types of government we are with you and beside you, and both of us against American dictatorship and their friends Israel and Mubarak.
    down with Mubarak
    sown with Israel
    Down with America

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  23. Khamenei same as Mobakar is a threat for the world

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  24. maziar
    i am very happy for your country
    and i know we will find Freedom
    love people
    love peace
    love world

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  25. Dear Egyptian fellows.
    Congatdulation. Go to the end but be c a re fu ll . If you hand the next govrnment over to the MUSLIMS and akhvan ol moslemoon you will lose your country and great cultural heritage.
    DO not't make a mistake as we made it and bastard Mullahs- 30 years ago- hijacked our freedom seeking movment and you see where Iran is now.PLS PLS be carefull.NO ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT ANY MORE.
    from Iran

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  26. LONG LIVE EGYPTIAN ,
    LONG LIVE IRANIAN
    go for a secular ,modern country.
    NO ISLAMIC Government.
    don't make mistake of Iranian 30 years ago.

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  27. To Mustafa: I should say you are realy stupid, just like your leader Ahmadinejad. The only person who send two comments instead of one was you. You should know that it has been a long time that lots of website analytics and statistic such as google analytics has been invented inorder to find who is commenting or visiting the website from which country even by using which IP addresses; therefore, if you think that bye sending such stupid comment you can hide the deep violence and dirty mannerism and horrific atrocities of Islamic Regime of Iran, I'm really sorry for you. Thanks to the media and the technologies of today, no matter how much you and your Islamic Regime want to supress the people of Iran, the voices of the victimized Persian people is being heard all over the world.

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  28. As an Iranian ,I wish luck for Egyptions , we strongly advise you guys ,keep an eye on your revolution and don't let another fucking khomeini (Islamists) steal your freedom and your revolution. Down with bloody Islamists and any other dictators!!!!

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  29. you see, Egyptian muslims?
    green oppositions want a secular government, this what USA wants.
    don't be fooled by these liars that last year destroyed our country Iran.
    These are american lovers...

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  30. "To Mustafa: I should say you are realy stupid"

    you see? these people are rude to any one. they shout "democracy" but insult to their opposite thought and insult to our leader, the leader that is against Israel and America.

    I insist again, each type of government you choose we iranians are with you and support your freedom, an islamic government or non islamic government...
    Down with mubarak
    Down with USA
    Down with Israel

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  31. to رستم فرخزاد:
    yes I agree with you that the world has heared your voice and because of this US congress decided to help your movement and this is because you are the hope of Israel inside Iran (this what Netanyahu said, I think)

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  32. to the above rude comment:
    you are helping me to prove that you greens are not real Iranians and are such wild creatures that last year destroyed Tehran.
    Thanks for your help and God bless you, azizam:D

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  33. mostafa, nah tanha tehran ro, balke khahar madar to ro ham destroy hardim, vay che hali miad kardan kose tang khaharet va pare kardan pardash. dige khaharet dokhtar nist, zanam nist, balke ye jendeh kasife pare shodas. jooooooonnnnn

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  34. the above comment is again another rude comment from green opposition and I will keep silence against him in order to prevent this subject be dirty of his mouth.

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  35. Don't let anybody steal your wish for freedom. A lot of Iranian young people admire your thirsty for a better future. Like my fellow men from IRAN, I really wish you won't buy religious ideologies to build your future on. It's dark and full of ignorance, full of savage and pain. We have seen and suffered from an ugly one one here. Lots of us have been murdered, raped, and tortured since 1987 and especially after the last (so-called) presidential election. We are educated, nice, forward-thinking young men and women and we have seen many brutality from this regime in the name of God and Islam. Don't let these religious thinkers deceive you and steal your dreams. By the way, anyone with an anonymous account can comment here and say bad words!

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  36. agha mostafa, bache kooni, to boro kire babato bokhor, to ro che be bahse siasi inja, nanat hich vahgt vase babat kir nakhordeh, babahe bad joori to khomari moondeh, bodo boro pesar kooni khoob, ye hali be baba bedeh, baba ham vase tavalodet, ghorboonet bereh, ye santafe mikhareh ke betooni az roo zan o bache bi gonah mardom rad shi dobare kooni adamkosh.

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  37. Listen Mustafa the action that you have taken here in a very small society really goes to show the characteristics of the Islamic Regim, which is lies, ignorance, and hatred towards anyone but MUSLIMS. First of all you are acusing every body to send fake commaents and then when I mention to you that is not possible becuse website analytics can determine that you start connecting me to Israel and USA or other fucking country you like. This is of the same mannerism of the Islamic Regime; when they can't answer intelligently and logically they start to blame others for being democratic and humane. Islamic Regime of Iran rapes, tortures, and kills their own people and if anyone stands up for the people of opposition they accuse them of being a representative of Israel or USA. Why can't you for once open your eyes and realize that THE PEOPLE OF IRAN by their own will the same way they brought you to power, want the Islamic Regime to step down not the USA or Israel or anyone else.

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  38. First a word to previous Persian contributors:

    be mostafa va anonymous

    basse dige aberuye irani ro nabarid joloe digaran. har ki be har hal nazare khodesho mige, dige fohshe khar madar chera midi ahmagh, hameye donya bayad befahman che bishouri hasti?

    ....

    About the current unrest in Egypt:

    Press on liberating yourselves from the evil hands of dictators, You have our hearts with you. We don't want to tell our Egyptian brothers what to do, but out of sympathy we have to warn you of the consequences of empowering Islamists. Islamists don't give a damn about individual freedom, they will literally destroy your country. We say this based on experience.


    Long Live Glorious Egypt and Persia

    Way to go brothers!

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  39. Islam and Democracy does NOT get along
    Fellow Egyptian make up your mind, and be honest with yourself. Democracy and Islam have different systems of values. I am not suggesting one or the other. But I can share Iran experience with you; Islamic and any ideological governing system has a natural tendency to scarify the democracy and human rights in favor of their own values. Be aware of mixing these two. If you in favor of Democracy said it loud and up front.

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  40. way to go Egypt!Dont be fooled by islamist .free yourself from Moubark for good please no mullahs they are snakes worse than any dictators we are paying a huge price for this booldsuckerssssssssssssss in Iran ,but we will get them out soon .we support you all the way.

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  41. Be careful your country not get occupied by Islamists! We Iranians have been suffering from this for over 30 years .. Northing is worse than this! Go for separation of church and state! So that all Muslems, Christians and Bahais can practice their faith freely and ...

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  42. I advise egyptian people be aware of Islam and islamic movement, be aware albarade is iranian molla's friend he supported iranian baster and cruel goverment,he has backed to egypt no for support the people ,he backed because he want to be another khamenhi in your country.
    majid

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  43. to mustafa,if you think your opinion is majority of iranian opinion,why your dictator's goverment(swindler ahmadi nejad)doesn't let iranian people do a calm demonstration ? why they attack iranian calm and peaceful demonstration,why did they cut internet,sack the journalist and reporter from iran,why did they shoot to iranian people,and raped some boys and girls in the prison in the name of the god and Islam ,what they (mollah)did with iranian people sadam hussin never did with iranian solders.just sham to you mustaffa you deny reality of iran's events .how do you pray the god when you lie in the light day.
    majid

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  44. شاعر ناشناس: شعری از برای امام

    اماما ! من بر آن سيمای همچون عَنترت ريدم
    بر آن ريش و سبيل و صورت بد منظرت ريدم

    گرچه دورم با تاسف از حضور انورت لیکن،
    من مخلص غياباً بر حضور عَن وَرت ريدم

    امامی، رهبری، اما بقدر خر نميفهمی
    به ريشت ، بر آن فهمِ هم از خر كمترت ريدم

    به توضيح المسائل ، آن اراجيفی كه بنوشتی
    به تاليفات بی ارج و بهای ديگرت ريدم

    به تسبيح و عَبا و جامه ی تقوی كه پوشيدی
    بر آن عمامه ی پيچيده بر دور سرت ريدم

    شنيدم گفته ای مسجد بُوَد از بهر ما سنگر
    به سرتاپای آن مسجد كه باشد سنگرت ريدم

    ز حزب اللّهيان تشكيل نيرو دادی و لشكر
    به نيرويت، به حزبت، بر تمام لشكرت ! ريدم

    نه تنها بر خودت بل بر طرفــدارانت ای خائن
    که بر فرق پسر، دختر، برادر، خواهرت ريدم

    نداری چون پدر، من از پدر چيزی نمی گويم
    ولی ای بی حيا رهبر به روح مادرت ريدم

    عيال مهربانت وقت ريدن شد فراموشم
    كنون (با عذرخواهی) بر دهان همسرت ريدم

    تو ريدی بر تمــام مملکت منهم پی جبران
    ز انگشتان پا بگرفته تا فرق سرت ريدم

    تو آن جغدی که بال و پر ترا بخشيد آن کوسه
    روا باشــد اگـر گـويـم که بر بال و پرت ريدم

    بُوَد گوش تو كر، فرياد ملت بی اثر، ای خر
    کنون من ای خر مُظطَر، بر آن گوش كرت ريدم

    اگر اسلام اهریمن برایت بوده است آیین
    بر الله ت، به قرآنت، بر آن دین سراسر نکبتت ریدم
    اگراينست ترا دين وَ گر اينست پِيغمبَر،
    به آئينت، به دينت، بر سر پيغمبرت ريدم

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  45. let me translate the above comment from green party, only the last sentences:
    if satanic Islam is your religion/I fuck your Allah, your Quran, and your whole religion.
    If this is your religion and this your Prophet/ I fuck your religion and your prophet.

    this is Green opposition thought about Islam.
    you yourself can understand why these people say don't let Islamist to take power, they are enemy of your religion, they are enemy of Islam, and enemy of Iran.

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  46. to مشتی خاک:
    1)If you are educated and nice and good, is something different from what the majority say,It is important to determine on what the majority says, not what so called educated say.
    2)believe that all the rude comments is from real greens, and If I want to cheat, I could send comments as anonymous to show how many we and the people who think like me, are.
    3)what call savage and pain is the result of disobeying the election rules, is the result of destroying public places and facilities like banks, stores, buses. that is the result of the terrorists support of you. that is the result of riot against the majority vote and opinion.

    to رستم فرخزاد:
    1)the action and the way that your friends of green oppositions done toward me really goes to show the characteristics of the Green opposition, you made a mistake here. If my behavior show Islamic Regime, let it be done, this is a good comparison about how we treat and how you treat.
    2)Don't fool the others, I didn't relate what you said about IPs to USA financial support, that was on another subject.
    detecting IPs is not a good way to stop people to comment.
    AND you cant deny or reject the US and Israel support to Green opposition. they are in the news and if you deny that I'll put the news here to see who cant answer logically and to show who is the liar.
    by the way, the people in Tehran are not the representative of whole Iranians in other cities, Green demonstrations was only in Tehran. but you see in Egypt,it is in more than 4 cities. They are majority, you are minority.

    To majid:
    1)I just answered in the answer to moshti khak, but I have to add that:
    you wanted your votes, your leader Mousavi everywhere and everytime said we obey the rules, I am here to return to the rules, and so on. what he did was disobeying the rules. and what he did was inviting the greens to riot.
    the people in Tehran streets were not all Iranians, didn't you see how monafeghin and other terrorist groups wanted to misuse the opportunity that you and your leader mousavi gave them?
    2)our leader Khamenei said I am upset of kahrizak, I am upset of is done in Tehran university and what is done with name of me. You see how individuals participating in Kahrizak jail are punished and they are punished and jailed. this government that has done this, is not dictatorship.

    3)to let the people demonstrate, there is rule. and fortunately this subject is ruled in Mousavi government. study the rules.

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  47. راستی مصطفی. مادرت جندست، این رو هم حتما ترجمه کن بلکه مادرت هم اینترنشنال شد

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  48. We gave UK supreme leader Khamenei to you
    Then you gave us Dr. Mohammed El-Baradei
    don't make mistake of Iranian 30 years ago.

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  49. فعلا كه ميبينيم همين بچه كونيا انقلاب كردن ولي ما فقط حرف زديم و ريديم

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  50. To you Mostafa:
    How many green demonstration you were in to see what happened each time there?

    -All the time it was those savage animals that started to drive cars and motor bike through the dense crowd of people, families, ladies who were demonstrating peacefully.

    -I do need to swear to God, or whatever is sacred for people like you, but I have witnessed all these sights with my own eyes. It happened to my best friend who got arrested just because he was crying freedom. no weapon, not even a stone in his hand. Mostafa, you know these heartless creature very well, yeah you do.

    This Islamic corrupt regime in Iran do not want to see even a little word against itself and agianst Khamenei. it is called "religious Fascism" it has a definition, just search it in google.

    Oh, GOD, there have been so many human disasters in this country, so many savages throughout these years, Oh God, help me to survive this anger, give me patience.

    -You have had all the media, TV (all the
    Iranian channels), radios, newspapers for three decades, all run by the money and wealth of this country.

    - you have filtered all the websites and personal pages and web blogs you couldn't tolerate. you even imprisoned a 16 year-old high school boy. just search in internet.

    -You can't even tolerate a paragraph, even a sentence against yourself. You have countless political prisoners.

    -You have slaughtered, tortured, imprisoned lots of writers. Can you imagine that? all this because they were writing sentences!

    - anyone who says sth against you, either gets in prison=rape, torture, not just keeping away from society. or you just hang them accusing them with the plot against God and state. last week you hang a member of your own Revolutionary Guard in Khuzistan with the accusation of claiming himself as God!!!, just because he had criticized Khamenei.

    You said to me: 3)what call savage and pain is the result of disobeying the election rules, is the result of destroying public places and facilities like banks, stores, buses. that is the result of the terrorists support of you. that is the result of riot against the majority vote and opinion.

    SO, You agree that you did all this!!! You raped boys and girls because they destroyed public places, haa?!! Well, thanks!!! You are marvelous!

    You do not wanna accept the fact that this regime is " I write "corrupt", you read "sinner". I don't say any bad words to you, and I do not wanna convince you here, cuz it's your own life, and your own destiny, but brother, you are keeping close your eyes, trying not to see all these sins, all this paradox.

    Agha Mostafa, in ghesmato makhsuse khodetminevisam, be KHODA khastam az bass be amsale shoma goftam ke be KHODA, be Peyghambar, be har chi ke miparasti, baba in regime khunkhare, be KHODA inha adam koshtan, jomhuri eslami ham adam koshte, mikoshe, akhe to kojaye un dine shoma neveshte ke be bahaneye hefz hokumat mishe har kesafat kari kard, mishe tajavoz kard. bebin man in ha ro az baade hava nemigam, mishnasam adam ke balaha sareshun avordan tu hamin dargirihaye parsal. pas age miduni in kara anjma shode, pas dige tabsare nazan ke khodeto tojih koni shar'i bude. in hokumat, mashruiyati nadare nazde man. ghalbe man, va ehsase man baraye in hokumat nemitape, tarafdaran in hokumat dar negahe man maskh shodegani hastan ke ya kharidaneshun ya nuneshun gire in hokumate, ya khaaban o farib khordan o in ghadr taghaddos sazi shode dar zehneshun ke rah ro bar har fekre jadidi bastan. in ha ro kesi minevise ke salha masjed mirafte, fa'al bude unja, paye sokhanrani "masalan ruhaniha" mirafte, koli adam doro baram bude az hoze o nezam.

    man, be shakhse, hich vaght aab dar asiyabe din nemirizam, pashizi mohem nist baram in din o moda'yane din, chera ke harche dard in bashar keshide bekhatere din bude. chon midunam che khuni rikhte in din, in taghados geraei.

    Khastam kardi Mostafa, khastam kardi...

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  51. darse tarikhe, hameye holumat haye dictator miran, ta'ajobe man injast ke chera dars nemigirid. boro bekhun Stalin che jahanami sakhtebud, Animal farm ro bekhun ye baar, Mosulini che karde bude, Hitler ceh mikarde, hamin Saddam, mese ruz rushane baraye man ke in hokumat ham raftanie, man morde, shoma zende, bebin...

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  52. مصطفی مصطفی، به خواهرت سلام گرم من رو برسون و حتما این پیغام من رو اینجا ترجمه کن

    امضا: یکی از دوستان صمیمی مادرت

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